1970's Camera Tech: How they showed you what settings to use

Opublikowany 30 paź 2020
Ever wonder how pro cameras from the 1970's worked? Learn about their single most important tool for the photographer (and lots else!) in this exposé.
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Komentarze

  • I recently bought a Fuji XT4 and the body layout is very similar to that old Canon. I love using cameras with tactile buttons and dials on them so it's part of the reason why I was gravitated to it.

  • How is it that I watched this 6 months ago, and am rewatching now with almost as much enjoyment as last time?

  • Can't you adjust for the 1.5 volt battery by raising the ISO one stop? Because the 1.5 volt battery causes the light meter to be more sensitive, wouldn't it fix the problem too just increase the ISO? (Side note: I use the light meter in my Minolta SRT 101 with a 1.5 volt battery and have not had an issue with exposures. As long as I follow the needle, my exposure seems to be proper.)

  • In Germany we also use only the iso for photography. We have other DIN norms but tha one for photography onli remember old people.

  • Discuss bracketing the shots so that our expensive darkroom time and materials would be of good use to us with with the added pair choices.

  • @0:45 Effects are so realistic these days.

  • wait no you are actually captain disillusion

  • Finally something I'm better at then him, aftereffects

  • I have a similar camera. My parents bought it when I was born. I used it in high-school photography. We had to develop and print our own film and paper in a dark room. My art teacher wondered how a nerd got in his class.

  • I have two analog cameras, a minolta srt 101 and a minolta xg-m. I had the 101 first but the curtains were no longer in sync resulting in photos where the left part of the film was far over exposed and right was underexposed. I still love my 101 tho and it sits on my shelf, but the xg-m is my new favorite film camera. Also on the xg-m I can use normal lr44 button cells and the light meter works perfect. Love analog photography

  • 1 light meter is about 3.33 nanoseconds (light takes 3.33ns to travel 1 m)

  • Light meter could have been a unit of time in parallel of light year - the unit of distance. So, the amount of time in which the light travels one meter...

  • Love this episode! I have been a photographer since this camera was new. I also once worked in a camera store selling these era of cameras. I reluctantly switched from film to digital cameras some time ago. I have recently returned to using film media since the reintroduction of Ektachrome film stock. I have even purchased two medium format cameras that I use quite a lot. I had to remember how to use these cameras, with the light meters and exposure requirements of the film stock that I had not really needed to do with the new digital cameras. It has awakened my creativity. Please consider more episodes covering photography in the future.

  • Being a digital guy, this is like showing an intricate watch to a Casio user

  • 2:27 wow.. I was wondering what that is for on my A1...

  • I have a Canon AE-1

  • i have been using it for a while now, and i would say it is the greatest camera i've ever used in terms of consumer friendliness, despite being a professional model conceptually. although i dislike how dust can accumulate on the focusing screen due to the removable pentaprism having leaks, as well as the sheer weight, of course. and yes the light meter is amazing 50 years on. i also love how you use the fujicolor roll for iso stats, since kodak doesnt show din at all.

  • Can’t wait for more videos like these , there’s many interesting things in analog cameras , those early autofocus , dx coding , motorwinders, frame counting

  • Din is still has a measurement standard that's used... but its in skis. the resistance a ski binding has to opening is called a din. the lower the din the easier it is to pop out of the ski. beginners who are not on advanced terrain will have very low din for safety reasons. when you fall they will pop off preventing ankle rolling n such. but once you get into advance terrain there is a risk of skis popping off from just... skiing, so you have to crank your dins up. I was a ski racer so I had my dins cranked particularly high because you could push so hard off the start you could launch right out of them (which I have done before and its not fun... ok it was kinda fun) i had never heard of dins outside of skiing so I thought it was made... just for skiing, was an interesting thing to find out

  • Where are the videos following on this topic?

  • I suggest using longer/shorter vs higher/lower shutter speeds. I super love your videos btw.

  • Been shooting film, and digital for years and never made the link between ISO and... ISO

  • Olympus-PEN EES-2 I see what you did there Olympus! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • aww shit now i can't unsee the captain dissolution thing

  • As someone who didn't switch to digital photography until 2009, it still seems kind weird to hear film photography discussed as (nearly) ancient history.

  • So you are not captain disillusion? I thought this was his another channel lol 😂. Are you positive that you guys are not the long lost twins that got separated on birth?

  • Video @ 22:35 "Zinc-Air - They're pretty neat" - NOPE - Zinc & Alkaline units are too unpredictable in their tapering voltage & frequent in their harmful "leakage" accidents - HORRIBLE for your classic camera ! - Buy instead a Silver Oxide Eveready EPX357 with a MR9 voltage reduce adapter. They last 1 year plus and the voltage (like the Mercury style) stays level until they suddenly die...

  • I have been a photography enthusiast for 50 years and I had many manual film cameras and developed and printed my own shots. The reality is that modern digital cameras do a better job of choosing settings than you will ever be able to do except on those occasions where you are forcing the settings for artistic effect.

  • Honestly I thought he was Captain Disillusion at first

  • I wish i knew this when i was a kid using my dad's cameras..

  • When I explain camera settings to new photographers I can see their heads explode. I’m imagining many here exploding too. I use long exposures while walking in front of the camera while holding a big light box. When I don’t show up in the shot and it blows peoples minds.

  • That was fascinating

  • Your videos are top notch. So much research put into each of them, well presented, a great mix of informative and fun / entertaining. Looks like I'll be binging this channel lol.

  • Man, that camera looks really fun to use.

  • Just picked up a Yashica Electro 35- yeah this is accurate

  • Oh my goodness, will he cover "pushing"...will he? [holding breath]

  • I S O... so Iso like Iso resin?

  • I feel obligated to say that we don't use the DIN standard anymore. If you buy film you can still read it on those but in digital cameras there is only iso. BTW DIN paper is better because DIN A4 is double the size as DIN A5 and so on. The biggest paper size is DIN A0

  • For those who wanna know, we don't use DIN in Germany for the ISO anymore, either.

  • I took an old 1980s RICOH manual film SLR on a day out once, turned out to be a drizzly rainy day and to make matters worse the battery for the light meter died shortly after the day began. I stuck to something like f8 and 125/sec with the stock 50mm lens and all exposures came out brilliantly, the camera didn't care about getting a bit wet as there was no electrical power going through it. In the end I got some fantastic shots of us all getting wet and just having a blast outdoors, a testiment to these old camera's robustness and ease of use. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to use my modern DSLR or even a digital compact in those conditions, I can just imaging a lot of the shots coming out blurry as well.

  • Was very pleased by the “Dude” reference. This channel is my new favourite. That’s just like, my opinion, man.

  • Started my photography in college on a Canon Rebel film camera. Took a course in B&W and had to expose my own images. I was already fluent in Photoshop (4.0 at the time) but the course and experience was invaluable. Now I take auto racing and amusement park photography with a specialty in panning shots - long exposure shots, hand held to create blur around an object to intensify the speed or simply create extra focus on the object. All started with a regular film camera.

  • In 1974 the International Standard Association said: "ORGANIZATION, dang it!"

  • The Zeiss Contax IIIa had a similar setup in 1951, although the light meter wasn’t visible through the viewfinder and unpowered. It also had a rangefinder not an SLR

  • 1:55 olympus penis? Pen i i s Two

  • everyone i know in automotive calls NHTSA "Nitsa" like you mentioned because what the heck else can we call it without expanding a conversation a ton?

  • The weight of these old cameras was great. It’s the main reason I like MacBooks that are heavy compared to lighter laptops made of plastic. The heaviness just makes things feel premium IMO. So many light weight products feel like they will break after looking at it wrong. Don’t even mention mechanical keyboards. I have a 40% board that weighs as much as a full size.

  • I think I might of seen this in my college pretty cool

  • damn.. your making me want to buy one of these cameras

  • Pro tip: you call also buy batteries called “Wein Cells” for these types of cameras, you can find them on Amazon. These don’t have the time limited problems

  • wooo hooo! love these photography videos! though the mechanism is surprisingly simple, i my self am simply amaze by how it all work out! (and by the way i also have originally thought that you were captain disillusion😅 but after some precise comparison i have come to the conclusion that you two are not the same person)

  • Interaction comment.

  • 8:10 "We are still using ASA, but are calling it ISO. At least outside Germany." In Germany also nobody uses the DIN number but only the ASA bit of the ISO. At least today. Or at least I personally have never heard anything other than ISO 100/400/etc. Thanks for video!

  • This is a mechanical masterpiece! My dad might have had one of these but unfortunately we gave it away :(

  • Please consider a collaborative project with Cathode Ray Dude 🙏 Also love your videos as well too! 💜

  • Wait... You are not Capitan Disillusion? What else are you hiding from us?!

  • I have very fond memories of playing around with one of these. It is a _fascinating_ device, and I still find it mind blowing how quick and precise it can be, while being powered entirely from a single stroke of my thumb.

  • I'm mad that 9:40 isn't actually underexposed (it would've been looked beautifully with all the nice lights in the background) but just darkened in the video editing software ;)

  • That holder on the back reminds me of flint stone style parodies where the user slides in a stone tablet in a tv frame.

  • ISO -> International Organization for Standardization. ISO is not an initialism, it's based on the Greek word ίσος (isos) meaning "equal." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization#Name_and_abbreviations And, of course, no, it doesn't actually matter. Enjoy the meaningless geekery!

  • I'm German. We also use ISO although we usually pronounce it as if it were a German word which then sounds something like "eeso"

  • Recently got a Very Nice Fujicam Camera, and it has this Wonderful Light Meter and even an Auto Exposure setting!

  • It took you a while to bring that old camera to focus. Anyways it's good to see some people still owning film cameras like you and me. Although I no longer have full analogue cameras I still have 4 Nikon bodys from the late 90's.

  • Your videos are therapeutic 😌😌😌

  • I have always been impressed by your real set, and have wondered how you managed to do some off the things I'm looking at.

  • I never knew about any of that but I've also never had one of those cameras. I've had a couple of digital cameras but the only film camera I had was a kids one that had this film that was contained inside a plastic thing that fit inside the camera and you didn't have to try to get the film onto those little pegs on other kinds of cameras to get it to go through the roll properly. I guess that's why they had this kind of film for kid cameras because you never had to do anything but put the plastic thing into the camera and it automatically moved the film inside from one side of the plastic case to the other and then you'd turn in the whole plastic thing to get the pictures developed. That camera had a place for one of those flash cartridges but those were a row of bulbs that would each only flash once, so you'd go through them like you'd go through film (except there were always fewer flash bulbs in a cartridge than pictures you could take on a roll of film. I do like digital cameras a lot because there's less pressure not to take any shitty pictures since you can always erase them and try again on a digital camera. On film, you really don't know if you took a shitty picture or not until you develop it. I mean, there were Polaroids so you could technically take the picture again if you didn't like how it came out but you had to use up more film. My grandma had a Polaroid and I thought it was absolutely fantastic! Any time she would have it when I was around, I went through all her film because I thought it was so amazing. I wonder how the light sensor in that camera relates to the ones in digital cameras. Something that has always bugged me is how you can never get a good picture of the moon and it must have something to do with those light sensor things. I only have a phone camera now so the size of the hole is probably a problem there. I did manage to get an okay picture of the moon when I took it with my phone through a pair of binoculars but that was really hard to do.

    • You had a 110 cartridge automatic camera. We called them, "one-tens" and I still have several different ones. I also have an old Brownie like he has on the set here. That's the box looking one that sits just to the right of his F1 (I have my father's F1, by the way). I have 2 Lands, and I still go grab carts for those and take pictures. Mainly, I use one of two of my DSLRs. I had to laugh when I pictured you taking a pic of the moon with your cell thru a pair of binocular. That's fantastic! Keep trying things like that. You can upgrade to a different set or get a little tripod that you can mount the ocs to. I have a Dobsonian telescope that I have, so many times, tried to get a pic through or video (without buying the equipment to do it). LOL... I've almost dropped cameras, and yes, I did drop my cellphone once. This is a bigger 10-inch Dob telescope too, so you are standing up to look through the viewer scope. Keep taking pictures and keep looking up!

  • You describe film as having "clear plastic backing". Actually, for most films, the backing is tinted rather dark. This is to reduce the light which gets through the emulsion, passes through the backing, then bounces off the backside of the backing, back into the emulsion creating a "halo" around bright spots in the image. This is referred to as "anti-halation". This tint reduces light when using an enlarger to make prints, which is no problem (just increase the exposure), but for slides, the projector would have to cook the film to get enough light through! Some slide ("reversal") films had tinting that was washed out by the development.

  • That scene where Captain Disillusion pulls the camera from the CGI background is wild! Looks so real

  • Welp, time to go hunt down some film and a dark room and bust out the old manual camera.

  • Are you sure those holes are for air and not for a special wrench?

  • I had an analog camera 21 years ago, I know I have many photos that came out of it but I don't even remember putting a film in or taking a film out. It feels like it was in another life. I do remember I had to wait 7-10 days before I could see which photo had a finger on it though.

  • My first SLR camera was purchased in 1977 when I was in the Marine Corps. It was, and still is as I still have it, an Olympus OM-1. I purchased along with it, an Auto-winder and a 80mm - 150mm zoom / macro lens. I used it until I wore it out and could no longer get parts for it.

  • This video is the literal reason I now own a mechanical film camera

  • No one will ever convince me that digital is better than film. The convenience factor is better, of course, it’s annoying to get film and costly (either in time or money or both, whatever your method of development) to develop and print, but no digital camera can ever produce the relationship between photographer and photo. The film SLR makes you slow down and really, truly consider what you’re photographing, especially given the limited amount of images you have to each roll. Then, if you develop and print yourself, you baby those images and experiment the whole way through, right down to the measurement of your chemicals. It produces images that you have a connection and relationship with. And the experience of using a good old reliable mechanical camera, one you can repair yourself, a marvel of generations of artists and inventors right in your hands. It’s so pleasing. God I miss being able to make photographs out in the winter woods, just me and my Pentax. I hate being housebound.

  • This is such a great video, especially for a camera geek like me. Do you have your photography online at all?

  • Great video, you'd be surprised how many photographers don't know what "ISO" stands for.

  • This video is a real love-letter to that camera

  • Much like Nikon FMs

  • When you said that "SLR" stands for "Single Lens Reflex", I thought to myself: "ah okay, so DSLR must be Dual Single Lens Refl- wait.."

  • Now you mentioned Captain Disillusion your haircut does look like CD’s🤔

  • 16:53 bokeh no pico 👁️👄👁️

  • The whine of the flash at the end was so satisfyingly nostalgic

  • The background looks fake cause it's Ikea.

  • Half frame cluuuubbbb

  • I miss doing analogue photography. A dodgy tripod put an end to my old Pentax MV-1.

  • I wonder what would happen if you used a depleted alkaline battery for the light meter.

  • you talk like people are digesting this easily 🙄

  • The shirt was very appropriate for the intro 🤣

  • Ahaha Olympus PenEES-2

    • I'm sorry this is not the place for childishness...

  • Way, WAY late on this, and it may have already been mentioned, but if there's room, wiring a germanium diode in series with the sensor will provide almost exactkt the right voltage drop to use an alkaline cell in place of the old mercury cell.

  • I've watched you for a while and only very recently discovered captain dissolution so that joke was funny af

  • One of the reasons why I learned to develop film roles - four years ago - was so I could use cameras like these. Digital cameras are great and very useful. I own a nice Canon 6D and some others. But, modern digitals also take away a lot of control you have. Even when using it manually, the camera is still having an influence on your images. Is it ever truly your photo? To me, the answer felt like 'no'. I like to shoot full manual on film, though I'll admit for a quick shot a match-needle is pretty handy. My personal favorite cameras are the Nikon F3HP and Nikon F5, despite being a digital Canon shooter. There's just something awesome about using such a hefty mechanical tool. They were very popular with war correspondents and the like because of their robustness. I've got a nice motordrive on the F3 as well, which is great fun for quick snapshots. EDIT: You know what would be a fun video? The history of Kodachrome.

  • A contemporary of this Canon was the Ricoh TLS 401. (I had one) Although you couldn't remove the pentaprism, there was a knob that would enable a second (look-down) viewfinder. This camera also had a dual mode light meter, both Spot and Average setting were available.

  • WAW...THIS IS REALLY A GREAT VIDEO , I REALLY ENJOYED UNDERSTANDING AND REMEMBERING HOW SMART CAMERA ENGINEERING WAS THEN :) YOUR VIDEOS ARE GOOD FOR MY DATA-BASE ;) THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)

  • I just sent off my AE-1 to be serviced so I can begin using it, and now I want an F-1 too. 🤣 I will definitely do the hearing aid battery option, as I know mine is Alkaline. Thanks for that tip!

  • Its because your earlier videos had horribly obvious green screen. So why wouldn't this one? But it seems your editing skills have improved massively. It looks so realistic now.

  • 8:45 : "nitsah" being mobbed into existence is not nearly as atrocious as the attempt for "guh-iff" being forced (against its creator's will!) into being the pronunciation of the word ".gif"

  • After watching both for a few years... I never realized how much he reminds me of Captain D untill he said it.

  • iPhone photographers with their "I want a blurry background". dear god learn photography basics people. lol

  • There's a literal wire that traverses a series of pulleys to make the meter/shutter speed connection.