Detergent packs are kinda wishy-washy (Dishwashers Explained)

Opublikowany 20 gru 2020
Ever wonder how dishwashers work? Are you ever bummed by the performance of yours? Well, this video can answer your question and possibly provide you with a solution!
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Komentarze

  • This is certainly a long hot-take. If packs were sold with, maybe, tear-off baby packs meant to be thrown in along with the main wash, I'd be elated. And, to be clear, it's not like I think packs, tabs, whatever don't work - I'm sure plenty of you have fine experiences with them. They just... well as I said they don't make sense to me. Not for a dishwasher, anyway!

    • Sounds like German engineering

    • the funny part is the packs where originally meant to be thrown in at first start ....for dishwashers that didn't have the prewash slot.

    • What model is your kitchen aid?

    • @GeoStreber As far as I know, Bosch's North American dishwashers are still at least partially designed in North Carolina, so I'm not sure about that.

    • I love the captioning. Not so common yet.

  • As a huge Bosch aficionado for dishwashers, the recent one we got specifically recommended Finish Tabs, and as Sams club has them reasonably cheaply, and they're a lot easier than Cascade powder we used before the tabs, and as it only has one slot for the tab, we just used them. That said, the Bosch works so well for us that doing anything else would seem to be a waste. I get that theoretically adding another tab in might work better, but 99.99% of stuff comes out perfect, so there's little reason to try and improve that I can see. The only think I do is scrape large chunks into the garbage most of the time or let the dog lick off the plate as a treat. But otherwise I just shove pretty much anything in I can fit and let it rip. We've been doing this through 2 Bosch dishwashers over IDK, 15 years or so? The only downside to Bosch I can see is the pumps are hard to work on by the design, so I might look into Melie next time as the repair guy says the pumps are much easier to change. This is specific to our well water being hugely hard, and building up calcium deposits on everything, so even the Bosch salt compartment doesn't seem to fix the issue for the pump. I just don't know if I can give up the near silent Bosch with the V shaped 3rd rack for all the silverware...

  • Alright I'm in for the count with the powder/gel

  • Why do dishwasher jets suck at scrubbing? When compared to a brush.

  • I see you use a gel for the prewash routine. Can you also use powder detergent for the prewash?

  • Why not just do pod packs in the primary compartment and detergent in the prewash compartment?

  • im curious what kind of silicon you used was it meant for hi temps like silicon used for automotive use

  • Bro you are hot you should stand more... strong man too!!!

  • You are absolutely silly. I love it!

  • Love how I'm watching this while doing dishes.

  • 5:30 foreshadowing

  • My mom: Only fill up the main compartment, don't put any in the extra compartment! They're trying to get you to waste detergent so you buy more! Also my mom: Why aren't the dishes clean? You have to wash them before you put them in the dishwasher! Me: -.-' **why am I surrounded by idiots?**

  • Time to go do dishes, thanks

  • You picked that big ass thing up. My back hurts

  • I'm so thankful you have mentioned countertop dishwashers. I live inside of a appartment and I didn't know these existed and very thankful that you had bring this up to my attention. This helps me alot. I have also noticed that I'm not the only person that was unaware about these kinds of dishwashers for countertops. Thank you

  • THANK YOU!!! I was trying to understand what the dishwasher was supposed to do if I have to THOROUGHLY rinse the dishes prior to loading the dishwasher. I am absolutely going to start using the prewash.

  • I always use the crappy off-brand ones that are half the price of the top brand. Then I can put one in the soap compartment and one just tossed in the bottom. All the convenience of pods, all the power of powder.

  • I'm only halfway through and have learned so much omg thank you!

  • I hate dishwasher pods. My roommate in my last apartment was obsessed with them, to the point where I bought a big bottle of gel cleaner, stuck it under the sink where we kept all our cleaning supplies, and they still went out and bought a box of dishwasher pods....that lived right next to the big bottle of gel cleaner. The pods never, ever dissolved properly in our dishwasher. We had a small dishwasher, and my best guess, not being a tech person, is that the way they fit into the hatch messed with some internal sensor about when the little door was supposed to open, as it was a tight fit. Pretty much every time I opened the door after a wash, the pod was either half-dissolved or the compartment door hadn't even opened, necessitating another cycle and defeating the point of using the dishwasher in the first place. I never, ever had that problem when using gel cleaner, even not knowing anything about the pre-rinse compartment.

  • "Hold your commenting fingers" 😂 This video is equal parts entertaining and informative.

  • Before I switched to a phosphated detergent (Cascade Professional Fryer Boil Out), my dishes would be dingy, smell like wet dog, and had a white film on everything, especially the plastic items. When I switched to Cascade Professional Fryer Boil Out (look it up on Amazon, despite the funky name, it is an incredible dishwasher detergent) it solved all of my issues and is much cheaper per load, I buy the 6 pack of 85oz boxes for $64, it’s nearly a year’s supply for me. I believe you when you say that you’ve never had a problem with phosphate-free detergent, but I don’t think your experience is universal. For instance, I have very hard water and a cheap dishwasher which I can’t replace because I’m in a rental. I also have a very sensitive sense of smell, so maybe you are just not picking up on odors that enzyme based detergents create/leave-behind. I would advise the following for your viewers, plan A is to use a modern phosphate free detergent, but if they’re not completely satisfied with how clean their dishes are, a good plan B would be to use a phosphated detergent. The environmental concerns are completely overblown, phosphates are still allowed to be used in much, much larger quantities for a variety of household and commercial uses (it can be used by the pound for landscaping, by the ton for agriculture, and yet the amount used in dishwashers is best measured by the gram). However, depending on where your sewage water is drained, there may be some legitimate environmental concerns and there may be local laws limiting the amount of phosphates which can be used.

  • In the UK our dishwashers and washing machines are all cold fill. They used to be hot and cold fill but for an unknown reason it was stopped. Also, all the valves and pumps etc are within the main metal box. Note that only clean items should be put in a dishwasher! There should be no food particles on any item.

  • I know this is somewhat of an older video but I can give you the absolute dearest wishes from my mother. Our washingmachine doesnt have a pre-wash container and while she always used pulver detergent she never thought about adding some of it at the start. After watching your video I recommended this to her and she can't shut up about it how great it works!!! shes blown away and said she was close to buying a new machine (!) bcause she thought it had run out its time but now she says its practically as new or even better! Thanks for your awesome and very informative video and you gained not one but two fans!

  • If you have extra packs, couldn't you use a detergent pack WITH regular detergent in the pre wash?

  • I have to explain to my family now that it's a complete waste of water and such to wash dishes before using the dishwasher, and to stop using pods

  • [Insert 'Why Not Both' meme here] I've been using packs in the main wash, and the cheapest gel I can find in the prewash for a while now, and my late-90s vintage whirlpool dishwasher continues to do an excellent job. I think the keys to its longevity have been the use of prewash detergent, and the periodic use of dishwasher cleaning products to keep the inner workings... well, working.

  • My dishwasher only has one compartment. It keeps the final rinse water for the pre rinse in the next wash for reduced water consumption (clever). I use Finish powder detergent. My dishwasher works great. Better than hand washing. Each cycle is between 2hr to 3hr long though. But its so cheap and easy to operate while the dishes comes out perfectly clean and sparkly.

  • Making a good adhesive connection to very smooth plastic is hard. You'd probably get a better outcome etching or sanding the bonding surfaces and then using a high performance sealant - something intended for hot and oily environments. Maybe something from the auto parts store. Aside: my oven, toaster oven, blender, food processor, laundry appliances, and sous vide all have windows for me to see what's going on. Why not the dishwasher??

  • Since I watched this video I stepped over from dishwasher blocks to dishwasher powder. It's cheaper, plus I can add a little bit of powder directly into the tub for the pre-wash. The dishes come out perfect!

  • very educational, now i will be a total guru when i go to pick a dishwasher for my aging parents next week

  • In the manual of my Siemens dish washer, it is written to avoid using all-in-one detergent as it will prevent good cleaning ;) I never pre-rinse my dishes and never have a problem. All my family and colleagues pre-rinse and don't wash glasses and pots in the dishwasher. They use it only to clean forks, knives and plates, that is all. I find it very strange and they don't want to believe that it is not useful.

  • Thanks for the video. I switched to powder detergent and noticed quite the improvement compared to the finish squares.

  • Me at 11pm: I'll just watch 1 more video Me at 2:30am: *watching a 30 minute video about dishwashers*

  • He has the same voice inflections as ContraPoints. Am I the only one who hears it?

  • Just paused the video to comment....Excellent Cochrane joke..most excellent.. :)

  • Just came back to watch this a second time for some reason, and my reward is noticing the text at 1:20. I agree!

  • How the fuck did you make a 30 minute video on a goddamn dishwasher this engrossing?

  • i use a separate pre-wash detergent w detergent packs and my dishes still come out dirty. mb i should just try using the prewash in both compartments?

  • 30 minute video that probably taken days (very committed you are)

  • Salad dressings? Lol wut

  • I enjoy engaging in dishwasher commentary to boost numbers to appease the PLtools algorithm

  • I was not prepared for "the adorwable wittle one" 🤣

  • Yeah, I double dip my packs. One thrown in at the beginning if it's a particularly heavy mess.

  • All good. I just watched it in 2X speed.

  • I know this is an outlier use-case, but the detergent dispenser on my dishwasher broke like 8 years ago. If I used powdered detergent, it would just dump into the bottom of the dishwasher as soon as I close the door. So the pods have been pretty great.

  • I recently (a few years ago) heard that Cascade Ultimate Platinum or whatever pods were bad for dishwashers and I finally (4 days ago) bought both the pods and the liquid, to try out the liquid. The liquid worked decent after one wash, but after this video I jumped out of bed at 10:20pm to start a random load of dishes with some liquid for prewash! If this works I’ll never go back to not pre-wash!

  • my samsung doesn't have a prewash basin. lol the main detergent bin seems larger than previous machines I've had. I am not sure if it drains after 15 minutes. mine has a food grinder in it and i've only had it for a year but since the beginning it leaves small food fibers on my cups and glasses on the second rack and up near the top of the door on the stainless steel there's always food bits left behind, i've even taken the filter apart and cleaned it which requires removing i think 16 screws, it's a ton, because it's not meant to have to be done but it sucks. I hate it. my parents have a bosch and it's been amazing for them, and it has a similar looking dispenser as your kitchen aid, however it drops the pod into a cut out in the second rack. it's supposed to let it dissolve slowly i guess. i'm not sure what the deal is. but it does an amazing job, however it's the more expensive 800 series. but i have hated my samsung since a couple weeks after I got it. i've used different types of detergents and so far the best thing for me is the cascade platinum pods. but i still get left behind grit and fiber on the door and glassware.

    • My Samsung doesn’t have a prewash either! I love my dishwasher though, hate you’re struggling with yours! I use the platinum cascade too but I just tried the prewash with some liquid

  • 16:24 I missed that line the first few times I watched this video, but nearly spit out my midnight tea this past time lmao

  • Literally bought actual dishwasher powder detergent last week because of this video. Have urged my parents to do the same, lol. Will try to remember to run the hot water first too. Anyone who puts a dishwasher on a desk to prove a point has my attention! ;)

  • Never have I ever had a dishwasher that actually washes dishes. I've always filled both detergent spots, and unless you completely pre-clean the dishes, the dishwasher will never do anything.

  • i wont use the pods and i imagine dish placement matters a lot more than the dang pods the person that thought of them is an idiot. i would always scrape the heavy gunk off the dishes. actually if using just a sink you would be surprised how well just a soak works before you hand wash.

  • I';l replace my current dishwasher with one that features a clear front window. From the factory, not hacked in. Love your videos! Cheers!

  • Actually you're wrong on almost everything here. 1. These pods do partially dissolve during the pre-wash cycle.There are flow vents in the pod cavity that allow a measured flow of water during the pre-wash that puts pod detergent in the water. You should have look ed at this as an experiment. Of course having more detergent results in greater scouring power and that's why it is a good idea to put a few drops of Dawn into the loaded dishwasher. 2. The pods allow different strengths of detergent to be released at different times. 3. You can run the dishwasher on cold water but it is not as effective. I just tried this also and its definitely more effective on hot, even with the warm up delay. Pods are the right way to go, stay away from the powder and gels! You really need to redo this video after you do a few more experiments!

  • 0:59 The cringe. There's no way you didn't just scrape the heck out of your desk :'( That was so painful to watch.

  • If your dishwasher does “over suds” put a half a cap of liquid fabric softener in the tub for about 10 minutes, with it running. Once the “suds” are gone cancel the cycle and restart it

  • I want to thank you, I was having trouble with my dish washer, but it not the one you described, but the video did show my what was "wrong" with my dish washer. The issue was I did not know about the prewash, so I was just putting the detergent in the basin, so I am now knowing it was only there for the first 15 minutes, no wonder my dishes would have to go though the washer 2 times. I tried putting it in the area that pops open at the right time just to test things, and the problem went away. Thanks. Turns out I was wasting my dish detergent.

  • Bite into it

  • So...does nobody rinse their dirty dishes with a quick blast of the tap? THEN load the dishwasher? Also FOG isn't supposed to to down the drain.

  • Your semi sarcastic style is both informative and fun to watch, thank you for what you do. Quick question, dosen´t the pack in part resist quick desolving to remain for the main event?

  • My dishwasher only runs for 20-30 mins total.. even on sanitize pots n pans... only the clothes drier is only thing that runs for an hour or longer...

  • Countertop models? Really? Ive seen ones like that but were industrial.. in restaurants.. but i couldnt imagine loading a dishwasher above waist height...

  • I have never lived in a place with a dishwasher. Both my childhood home and my current apartment have older-style kitchens with no space for them, and my previous apartment was an efficiency studio. And yet here I sit, entranced by an entire half-hour video about dishwashers.

  • I'm watching this but I have no dishwasher.

  • Finish is the best

  • I don't care : I wash all my dishes with a sandblaster 😂

  • But you never finished your test! Do things actually get clean without using the pre-wash basin?

  • Solution: eat food you actually enjoy, so you get it all off the plate before it gets to the dishwasher.

  • ive never seen dishwasher with 2 containers except for the office heavy duty dishwashers. i checked mine, just one container. i havent seen non-pelleted detergents either. interesting.

  • I've never pre-rinsed any dishes nor put any prewash detergent and have never had unclean dishes so... I guess, yay for saving some detergent..

  • Im lazy and just throw the pack in. The bottom on the drum.

  • Gamer said: *casually puts dish washer on desk*

  • I'm pretty sure that the different pockets of those detergent pods are designed to release at different times. That's why you can feel that the wall is thicker around some parts and thinner around other parts. Besides, if any food is left on the dishes afterward, just use Brake cleaner spray ;-D

  • I love the science of appliances. I found this very informative. I have found that an occasional machine wash with a small amount of CLR helps. Thanks for the video!

  • Really neat video! I'm a pod-person and occasionally I would find some remaining food on the dishes after the wash. and I also tend to avoid filling it and run it as roughly max capacity. I've started using 2 pods if I have a large load, or aggressive food waste to wash, and also running the cold water out of the pipes to get hot water right into the washer. THE DIFFERENCE IS RIDICULOUS. I can wash anything! MUAHAHHAHAHA Most of the time it is going to be fine with 1 pod, for average food waste. But if I let it harden and settle, a second/pre-soak pod and pre-staging the hot-water make an enormous difference! My pod doesn't fit in the "pre-soak" bin - and there is no lid on that area for the pre-soak anyway, so I just toss the second pod into the floor of the dishwasher, and it works fine. I might be doubling up on some of the later parts of the pod detergent, but it seems like that isn't a problem overall.

  • It appears Bosch doesn't forego the prewash entirely, but rather adds in a small seep-dispenser (like what's normally on the prewash cup) to the main detergent cup.

  • I just spent a half hour listening to someone who almost looks young enough to be my own son lecture me on how to wash dishes properly. And now I want to stop at the store for some regular detergent.

  • Mine doesn't... Oh... *holds fingers*

  • I have never used a dishwasher nor have I heard about dishwasher pods, but after looking at some dishwasher gopro videos from Cascade themselves, wouldn't the problem be solved if the pods came in 2 compartments? A thinner one for pre wash and the regular one for main wash? Just curious.

  • I’ve never seen a dishwasher that has plastic inside here in Europe (I guess you could get some cheap plastic models too ?!). Dishwashers are all metallic both inside and out.

  • Through this video, I learned I have a Bosch dishwasher lol

  • Never had a dishwasher or used one. I was just interested in how they work. :)

  • You can cut fricking everything with water, so why not wash dishes? 😉😂

  • I just looked into my dish washer and there is only 1 for detergent and 1 for the stuff they advertise with perfectly clean glasses and which I never bought.

  • Gamers22

  • never use packs.... love my liquid detergent

  • I just watched a 30 minute video about dishwashers

  • ok, yes, in europe the dishwashers work with cold water wich they heat up with a bit of ohm (very efficient)

  • Oh my god I feel like a moron. I've put the detergent balls in the bottom of the tub my whole life. So THAT'S why the dishwasher struggles with some messes. It doesn't have detergent for the majority of the cycle. FML

  • As someone who doesn’t use dishwashers and just wash dishes manually, quite informative

  • I’ve tried detergent pods in the washing machine, they don’t seem to dissolve very well. Many times after the laundry cycle finishes there would be detergent residue on the clothes. Needless to say I stopped using them.

  • My favorite flavor is cherry/lime. The grape/lime/cherry you are holding are good but not like the ORANGE/LIME!!! wHAT. I DID remove it from the plastic this time? What...why are you so far away and talking to me through a 1980's walkie talkie? Mom, mom is that you? I like candy.

  • These are the real lifehacks! :D

  • You managed to entertain me for 32min straight by just talking about Dishwashers. I'm... verry impressed!

  • this man is woke

  • What if you an extra pack in the tub for the pre wash

  • Very helpful. Thank you.

  • Never would I have thought I would be sitting for a half listening to a guy talk about dishwashers and it having 100% of my attention.

  • It would be a great opportunity for licensing fees and proprietary designs to have detergent packs that are designed to fit in both the main wash and prewash sections of the dishwasher.

  • To break down a soap foam, use a spray bottle of rubbing alcohol.

  • A dishwasher that doesn't heat up the water itself? LOL.